Comments on: The end of the American Consumer and Bretton Woods http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/ Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:33:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: TheCZMan http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-325 TheCZMan Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:44:03 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-325 Where do come the berries? Where does the investment to create berries come from? Where does the savings to allow that investment come from? Telling that it is nature does not suit your own pattern of thought. So provide a pattern that suits it for the said cases. Where do come the berries? Where does the investment to create berries come from? Where does the savings to allow that investment come from?

Telling that it is nature does not suit your own pattern of thought. So provide a pattern that suits it for the said cases.

]]> By: djsherin http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-324 djsherin Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:42:28 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-324 What are talking about? I don't care where berries come from as an economist. I know they're there and I know that in order to continue to have them, not all of them can be consumed. You don't need investment to "create" berries. Nature creates berries and fruits. You can insure that enough berries and fruits survive to continue collecting from them over time. In the case of insuring you have enough seeds to produce for next year, the savings is not consuming everything at any one time (cont) What are talking about? I don’t care where berries come from as an economist. I know they’re there and I know that in order to continue to have them, not all of them can be consumed. You don’t need investment to “create” berries. Nature creates berries and fruits. You can insure that enough berries and fruits survive to continue collecting from them over time.

In the case of insuring you have enough seeds to produce for next year, the savings is not consuming everything at any one time (cont)

]]> By: djsherin http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-323 djsherin Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:29:12 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-323 Nature ultimately provides the berries, and from there one can insure that berries continue to exist and grow, but without the process of nature, we can't use berries. You're trying to ask why 1+1=2. I can't prove that mathematically, only intuitively. 1+1=2 simply because when you put one thing with another thing, you now have two of them. Nature ultimately provides the berries, and from there one can insure that berries continue to exist and grow, but without the process of nature, we can’t use berries. You’re trying to ask why 1+1=2. I can’t prove that mathematically, only intuitively. 1+1=2 simply because when you put one thing with another thing, you now have two of them.

]]> By: TheCZMan http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-322 TheCZMan Sat, 31 May 2008 22:51:00 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-322 You provided a pattern and this pattern does not apply. This is all what matters. Ah those capitalists, nature is mothercare, the start of all. You provided a pattern and this pattern does not apply.

This is all what matters.

Ah those capitalists, nature is mothercare, the start of all.

]]> By: djsherin http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-321 djsherin Sat, 31 May 2008 05:24:32 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-321 How can my patter apply of economics apply to a non-economic question? You're asking where the berries come from. I answered that. Natural science is irrelevant to the issue of economics. My point is investment creats wealth; new investment must come from savings. You have to save "things" and in this case, those "things" are berries. It makes no sense to apply the theory to how berries are created. That is a question for natural science. I don't understand why you're applying savings and How can my patter apply of economics apply to a non-economic question? You’re asking where the berries come from. I answered that. Natural science is irrelevant to the issue of economics. My point is investment creats wealth; new investment must come from savings. You have to save “things” and in this case, those “things” are berries. It makes no sense to apply the theory to how berries are created. That is a question for natural science. I don’t understand why you’re applying savings and

]]> By: djsherin http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-320 djsherin Wed, 28 May 2008 09:30:20 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-320 I don't understand why you're applying savings and investment to the creation of berries, or any natural resource for that matter. I don’t understand why you’re applying savings and investment to the creation of berries, or any natural resource for that matter.

]]> By: TheCZMan http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-319 TheCZMan Tue, 27 May 2008 12:23:03 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-319 Well, I dont understand why I should not apply the pattern to it. "you can't create wealth without investment. And you can't have investment without savings. Savings is absolutely necessary for the creation of wealth in an economy." So the input is irrelevant to a system? Well, I am not surprised... By the way, berries can be all collected without endangering the next crop. Well, I dont understand why I should not apply the pattern to it.
“you can’t create wealth without investment. And you can’t have investment without savings. Savings is absolutely necessary for the creation of wealth in an economy.”
So the input is irrelevant to a system? Well, I am not surprised…
By the way, berries can be all collected without endangering the next crop.

]]> By: djsherin http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-318 djsherin Mon, 26 May 2008 21:35:15 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-318 I see where we got off pace. What I was referring to by "wealth creation" was man made wealth creation. A berry is wealth, just not made by man. The berry example was to show how savings and exchange originated. We were thinking slightly different things. I was assuming that you were assuming that wealth creation was man made. We don't create berries or any natural wealth so clearly we can't save and invest in it the same way we do with capital goods and the like. (cont.) I see where we got off pace. What I was referring to by “wealth creation” was man made wealth creation. A berry is wealth, just not made by man. The berry example was to show how savings and exchange originated. We were thinking slightly different things. I was assuming that you were assuming that wealth creation was man made. We don’t create berries or any natural wealth so clearly we can’t save and invest in it the same way we do with capital goods and the like. (cont.)

]]> By: djsherin http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-317 djsherin Sat, 24 May 2008 17:51:08 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-317 Since investment and savings are concepts relating to man made things, it was implied that the wealth that is created through investment and savings is man made. Since investment and savings are concepts relating to man made things, it was implied that the wealth that is created through investment and savings is man made.

]]> By: TheCZMan http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/41/comment-page-1/#comment-316 TheCZMan Wed, 21 May 2008 22:24:59 +0000 http://consumer-alerts.org/the-end-of-the-american-consumer-and-bretton-woods/#comment-316 Oh so there are two different types of wealth... But what about butter? I told that this example would be funnier... Oh so there are two different types of wealth…
But what about butter? I told that this example would be funnier…

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